Lethal Illusion: Understanding the Death Penalty Apparatus

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The conversation between Malcolm and Liliana covers the topic of the death penalty, its history, and the current state of executions in the United States. They discuss the three-drug protocol used in Oklahoma and the experiences of witnesses to executions, including the journalist who covered Richard Glossip's case.

Malcolm expresses his concerns that the focus on individual circumstances of defendants may contribute to the problem of the death penalty, and Liliana agrees that the broader context of the criminal justice system should be considered. They also discuss how the reluctance to confront the issues with mass incarceration and the purpose of sentences may hinder progress towards reforming the death penalty.

The conversation highlights the complexities and nuances of the death penalty debate, and how different perspectives and experiences can shape our understanding of this issue. It also underscores the importance of press freedom and the role of journalists in holding those in power accountable for their actions.

Some key points from the conversation include:

* The three-drug protocol used in Oklahoma is designed to make executions look humane, but it's unclear what the defendant is experiencing during the process.
* The attorney general of Oklahoma, Gentner Drummond, attended the execution and put his hand on the witness's shoulder after the death, acknowledging the loss of the person executed.
* The conversation touches on the issue of racism and classism in the application of the death penalty, with disproportionately affecting Black and Latino people and poor people.
* Malcolm expresses concern that focusing on individual circumstances may contribute to the problem of the death penalty, and Liliana agrees that the broader context of the criminal justice system should be considered.

Overall, the conversation provides a thought-provoking exploration of the complexities of the death penalty debate and the need for nuanced and informed discussion about this issue.
 
The way they're talking about the three-drug protocol is wild 🤯... it's like, are we really trying to make executions look humane or what? Interesting that the AG from Oklahoma was there and was all chill after the execution 🙃. We need to talk more about how racism and classism play into the death penalty too, it can't be just individual circumstances 👀.
 
man this conversation with Malcolm & Liliana is giving me some food for thought 🤔... it's crazy how the death penalty debate can get so complex, right? on one hand, you got people who are all about individual circumstances and whatnot, but then you got others like Liliana who think we gotta look at the bigger picture and stuff. and have you seen that 3-drug protocol in Oklahoma? it's wild how they're trying to make it look all humane and whatnot... but is it really making a difference or just papering over the issues? 🤷‍♂️
 
I think its pretty messed up how we're still debating whether or not to kill people as punishment 🤯. I mean, we've been doing it for centuries, but have we ever really thought about what we're doing? We just kinda go through the motions, right? Like, who gets to decide if someone's life is worth killing? Is it just up to one person or a bunch of people in a room? And what about all the times when we've gotten it wrong? I mean, like that Richard Glossip guy, he was on death row for like 16 years before they finally realized his innocence 🕰️. It's crazy how much money and time is wasted on this stuff. We should be focusing on rehabilitation and helping people get their lives back together instead of trying to punish them to death 💔.
 
I'm totally invested in these conversations about the death penalty 🤯! I mean, have you seen the stats on racial disparities in who gets sentenced to death? It's like, super concerning 🚨. The three-drug protocol in Oklahoma sounds kinda sketchy too... what's really happening during those executions, huh? 😬 And can we talk about how journalists are still getting it and holding people in power accountable? That's some real bravery 💪.

I think Malcolm makes a solid point that we need to look at the broader context of our criminal justice system. It's not just about individual circumstances, but also about mass incarceration and sentencing reform 🤝. We need more nuanced conversations like this one to actually make progress on reforming the death penalty. And can we please discuss how to address racism and classism in our justice system? This is a huge issue that needs attention! 💥
 
😊 did u guys know in 2023 there were only 17 executions in the US? that's like, super low compared to other countries 🤯 and in oklahoma alone there were 26 executions since 2014! 📈 also the three-drug protocol is basically just a fancy way of saying "we're gonna try to make this less painful but still kinda traumatic" 😳 i mean what's the actual goal here? 🤔 and btw did u see that video of gentner drummond putting his hand on the witness's shoulder after the execution? 😲 it's like, he's trying to be all empathetic but it's still super messed up 💔
 
I'm really intrigued by how this conversation highlights the complexity of the death penalty debate 🤔. It's not just about individual cases, but also about the broader context of mass incarceration and the purpose of sentences. I think we need to consider how these issues intersect with each other. The three-drug protocol is a good example of how things might look more humane on paper, but what's really happening in those moments? 🤕 It's crazy that the attorney general was giving that witness a hug after the execution - it's like we're still trying to find a way to make death seem less... well, dead. 💀 I also appreciate how they touched on racism and classism, because that's definitely something we need to be having more conversations about. We can't just keep ignoring these systemic issues and expect things to change on their own 🔄
 
I'm so frustrated with how our prison system is still using three-drug protocol in Oklahoma 🤯. I mean, it's supposed to make executions look humane, but what's really going on? Is the defendant even aware of what's happening? We need more transparency and accountability in our justice system. And can we please talk about how the attorney general just put his hand on a witness's shoulder after an execution? That's just messed up 😒. I also think we're missing the bigger picture here - mass incarceration is a huge problem, and we need to be talking about the root causes of poverty and systemic racism in our country 🤝. We can't just focus on individual circumstances without looking at the broader context. It's time for us to have a real conversation about reforming the death penalty 💡.
 
The recent discussion between Malcolm and Liliana has really made me think about the complexities of the death penalty debate 🤔. I think it's really interesting how they highlighted the importance of considering the broader context of the criminal justice system when discussing individual circumstances of defendants. It makes sense that we can't just focus on one aspect without looking at the bigger picture, you know? The issue is so much more nuanced than just a simple pro-death penalty vs anti-death penalty debate.

I also found it fascinating how they brought up the role of press freedom and journalists in holding those in power accountable for their actions. It's so true that journalists play such a crucial role in shedding light on these kinds of issues and bringing attention to important social justice concerns 📰.

But what really got me thinking was when they touched on the issue of racism and classism in the application of the death penalty. I mean, it's no secret that Black and Latino people and poor people are disproportionately affected by the death penalty, but it's still shocking how often these issues get swept under the rug 🤷‍♀️.

Overall, I think this conversation was really thought-provoking and highlighted just how complex this issue is. We need more nuanced discussions like this one to really start making progress towards reforming the death penalty 💡
 
I'm so tired of people not really thinking about how their opinions on capital punishment affect others 🤯💔. Like, we gotta consider the bigger picture here - mass incarceration, systemic racism, poverty... these are all huge factors that contribute to who ends up on death row. We can't just focus on individual circumstances and expect to make progress 🙅‍♂️. And it's wild how some politicians are more concerned with appearances than actual justice, like that attorney general in Oklahoma giving his condolences after the execution... 🤷‍♀️ what does that even mean? The fact remains, we need a way to address these systemic issues and make sure our punishments are fair and humane 💡.
 
The thing is, they're talking about how we shouldn't focus too much on individual cases but also how that's kinda what we got - people making those decisions one case at a time 🤔. And it's true, there's some sketchy stuff going on with the death penalty, especially in Oklahoma, where it seems like they just wanna make it look less brutal 😕. But what about all the systemic issues? Like, how come we still got people stuck in prison for life or getting off scot-free? 🤷‍♂️ I mean, that three-drug protocol might be designed to look humane, but is anyone really watching? 🚫
 
The death penalty debate is such a mess 🤯... I mean, we're still having conversations like this 30 years later, and it's crazy to think about how much progress hasn't been made. I think what really gets me is that the focus on individual circumstances can be so misleading. Like, yeah, sure, Richard Glossip was super guilty of murder, but what about all the other factors that went into his case? The economic inequality in Oklahoma, the racial bias of the justice system... it's not just about one person's actions. We need to take a step back and look at the bigger picture 📈.

And don't even get me started on the three-drug protocol. I mean, sure, it might make executions look "humane" but what does that really say? That we're so comfortable with taking someone's life that we need to make it seem less painful? It's all just a bunch of semantics 🤷‍♀️. The real issue is the fact that we're still executing people in the first place.

I think one thing that's always been clear, though, is the importance of press freedom and journalists like Liliana who are willing to have these tough conversations. They're the ones who hold those in power accountable for their actions, and without them, we'd be stuck in this same cycle of injustice forever 💔.
 
omg I'm so done with the whole death penalty thing 🤯 it's like we're still debating whether or not it's moral to kill people 😩 and it's always the same story - poor people get sent to prison, but if you're rich and influential, you get a slap on the wrist and a fancy lawyer 💸 meanwhile they talk about reforming the system but really it's just about protecting the status quo 🙅‍♂️ I mean what even is the point of having death penalty when we know it's gonna be botched or discriminatory in some way? 🤷‍♀️
 
I'm thinking, the death penalty debate is so complex 🤔... we gotta consider all angles, you know? Like, it's not just about the individual case, but also how it fits into the bigger picture of the justice system. I think Malcolm raises a valid point that if we only focus on the circumstances of the defendant, we might be missing some deeper issues. 🤷‍♂️

It's wild to me that journalists still face obstacles when trying to cover these cases, you feel? It's like they're trying to expose the truth and hold people accountable, but there are so many barriers in place. That conversation with Liliana really highlighted how important it is for us to have a free press that can shed light on these issues.

But what's really concerning me is how systemic racism and classism are affecting the death penalty. 🚨 The stats just aren't adding up - Black and Latino people, poor people... they're disproportionately being targeted. We need to address those power imbalances if we want meaningful reform. 💡
 
man i just watched this convo between Malcolm and Liliana on the death penalty and it's really making me think 🤔. they're talking about how we focus so much on individual circumstances but forget that there's a whole system at play here 📈. like, what even is the purpose of sentencing anyway? is it just to punish or is it for some greater good?

and oh man the three-drug protocol thing in Oklahoma is wild 🤯. i mean it's designed to look humane but is it really? and gentner drummond just putting his hand on that witness's shoulder after the execution... 🙏 that's some weird stuff.

it's also making me think about racism and classism and how they play into all this 🚨. it's crazy how disproportionately black and latino people are affected by the death penalty, and poor people too. we need to be having a way more nuanced conversation than just individual circumstances 🤷‍♀️. we gotta look at the bigger picture here 💡
 
I feel so sorry for those who've lost loved ones to the death penalty. It's like, we're trying to make it look all humane on the surface, but really we don't know what's going on inside that person's mind or body during those last moments 🤕. And yeah, I think it's super important to consider the bigger picture here - the whole criminal justice system and how that can affect people of color and low-income communities disproportionately 💔. We need to have more open conversations about this and try to find a way forward that's fair for everyone, you know? It's not just about individual circumstances, but about creating a system that doesn't perpetuate inequality 🤝.
 
I'm still trying to wrap my head around the whole three-drug protocol thing in Oklahoma 🤔... it's like, I get that they're trying to make it look less painful or whatever, but what's going on behind closed doors? Is the guy even conscious when that third dose kicks in? 😕 It's all very unsettling. And can we please talk about the politics of it all? Like, is this just another way for the state to exert its power over certain groups? 🤝
 
I'm telling you, there's more to these conversations than meets the eye 🤔. The whole three-drug protocol thing, it sounds like they're trying to make executions look less brutal, but what if that's just a smokescreen? What if they're actually trying to cover up some dark secrets? I mean, Gentner Drummond, the attorney general, he's got some explaining to do with that hand on the witness's shoulder after the execution... it looked way too familiar to me. And don't even get me started on the racism and classism in the application of the death penalty - they're just trying to sweep it under the rug 🚫. We need to dig deeper, you know? There's gotta be more to this story than what we're being told...
 
I'm telling you, it's all about putting things into perspective 🤔. The three-drug protocol might seem humane on paper, but what's really going on behind closed doors? 🚫 I mean, we should be focusing on the bigger picture here - the mass incarceration system that perpetuates this cycle of violence and execution. We need to address the root causes, not just the symptoms 💡

And let's not forget about the journalists who are holding those in power accountable for their actions 👊. Without a free press, we'd be stuck in the dark ages of information. But, at the same time, we can't just ignore the issues of racism and classism that plague our justice system 🤕.

I'm all for nuanced discussions and informed debates about the death penalty 💡. We need to keep having these conversations until we get to a place where we're not just talking about individual cases, but the systemic problems that lead to those cases in the first place 💪
 
I'm still reeling from the latest conversation I had with some friends about the death penalty 🤔. I think we all agree that it's a complex issue, but what really gets me is how much attention is given to individual cases without looking at the bigger picture. For instance, I was talking to my grandkids the other day and they were telling me about this one guy who was on death row in Oklahoma and he got three injections 😕. My point is, why are we focusing so much on what's happening in that one person's body when there's a whole system at play? We need to be talking about mass incarceration, systemic racism, and classism 🚨. That's where the real change needs to happen. I'm not saying we should just abolish the death penalty, but let's make sure we're having an informed conversation that takes into account all the factors involved.
 
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