Not like the rest of The Rock: Staten Island's redistricting fight centers on North Shore

The North Shore's Existential Debate: Where do Staten Islanders Fit In?

In the heart of New York City, residents of Staten Island's North Shore find themselves at odds with their neighboring community over the island's identity. Unlike the rest of Staten Island, which is characterized by suburban streets and single-family homes, the North Shore is a densely populated area with old homes, large apartment buildings, and NYCHA complexes on city streets.

For many residents like Janos Marton, 43, there's no question that they're more culturally connected to other parts of New York City than their neighbors in South Staten Island. "I feel like the North Shore is culturally more connected to literally any other part of New York City," Marton said during an interview.

One reason for this sense of disconnection is the geographic barrier of the Staten Island Expressway, which slices through the borough and serves as a divide between the North Shore and the rest. The highway has led to a lack of investment and development in some areas, leaving residents like Bao-chin Keen feeling under-served.

Keen, who grew up in the neighborhood's public housing complex, feels that her community needs more representation. "I just feel like I'm living in Gotham City and we need a Batman," she said during an interview.

The North Shore is one of the few areas on Staten Island with a diverse community of people of color, according to Marton and Cristina González, who moved to the area five years ago. The couple is active Democrats and were drawn to the neighborhood's progressive politics.

González described the North Shore as "lefty" compared to other parts of Staten Island. The couple has been actively engaged in local politics, including supporting Mayor Zohran Mamdani in their St. George neighborhood.

However, not everyone sees eye-to-eye with González and Marton. Republicans have accused Democrats of trying to steal the congressional seat, which could have significant implications for the borough's representation in Congress.

Assemblymember Charles Fall, who represents a district that stretches from Staten Island's North Shore to parts of Lower Manhattan, said that voters across all three boroughs share similar concerns about public safety, transportation, and economic development.

Fall criticized the city's Economic Development Corporation for mismanaging a plan to revitalize the St. George waterfront with a huge Ferris wheel. The failed project led to a domino effect, dooming nearby residents with little to show for the years of planning.

In Stapleton, a predominantly Black community, Rev. Dr. Demetrius Carolina encouraged his parishioners to take action and speak up about their concerns. "I often say to the residents of the North Shore: Stand up, speak up, be heard and be seen because your voice and your life matter as much as anyone else's," he said during an interview.

For Carolina, the court battle over representation is a crucial moment in pushing back against larger challenges to democratic norms across the country. "Staten Island is a small microcosm of a very real macro-challenge we are going to face as a nation," he said.
 
😒 The whole North Shore vs South Staten Island debate just feels like old news, ya know? Like, we had this same conversation 10 years ago and it's still going around in circles 🤯 I mean, the Expressway is definitely a barrier, but can't we all just get along? 💕 It's like, you're saying one thing on the North Shore and another thing in South Staten Island. Can't we just find common ground for once? 🤷‍♀️ And what's with the whole "lefty" vs "righty" politics drama? 🙄 It's Staten Island, folks! We're all New Yorkers at the end of the day 🗽
 
The Staten Island conundrum raises intriguing questions about identity, community, and representation 🤔. The North Shore's distinct cultural leanings and physical landscape set it apart from the rest of the island, but this sense of disconnection can also be seen as an opportunity for growth and bridging the divide between neighborhoods 🌉. Marton and Keen's sentiments on feeling under-served and craving more representation resonate deeply, particularly in light of the failed Ferris wheel project, which highlights the need for effective governance and community engagement 👍. The role of progressive politics in shaping the North Shore's identity is also noteworthy, serving as a microcosm for larger democratic struggles across the country 🗳️. Ultimately, fostering dialogue and collaboration between residents from different backgrounds will be crucial in navigating these complex issues and finding a sense of unity and belonging within Staten Island.
 
I'm tellin' ya, this whole thing about Staten Island's identity is just a smokescreen for something bigger 🤔. I mean, think about it - the North Shore is like the 'elites', always talking about how connected they are to NYC, but what about the rest of the island? It's like they're tryin' to create their own bubble, separate from the rest of Staten Island.

And then there's this thing about Democrats and Republicans goin' at it over the congressional seat... yeah right. I think it's just a distraction from the real issue: who's really runnin' things around here? 🤑 You know, like that Economic Development Corporation fiasco - what was really goin' on behind the scenes?

And don't even get me started on Rev. Dr. Carolina's warnings about pushback against democratic norms... sounds like he's onto somethin'. I mean, have you noticed how suddenly all these 'community leaders' are comin' outta nowhere to speak up for their 'constituents'? It's like they're all in on some kinda secret plan 🤫. Anyway, this whole thing just feels too suspicious...
 
The North Shore's identity crisis is like, Staten Island's biggest puzzle piece 🤔. Why can't they just accept each other? It's not like it's Gotham City vs. the rest of NYC, but like, a neighborhood within itself 😊. They need to stop fighting and start building, literally! 💪
 
the Staten island north shore debate is wild lol 🤯 i feel like they're trying to figure out who they are and where they fit in, but honestly it's all about representation, you know? they need more people of color speaking up and being heard, and it's not just the North Shore that needs it - the whole island should be pushing for change, especially when it comes to public safety and economic development. we gotta support the locals like Rev Dr Carolina who's trying to keep his community safe and heard 🙌
 
🤔 The North Shore of Staten Island seems like it's got its own vibe, you know? It's like they're trying to break away from the rest of Staten Island and become their own thing. I get why some people might feel disconnected from the rest of the island, especially with that highway separating them. 🚗 It's like a physical barrier that makes them feel cut off.

But at the same time, it's interesting that they're able to create this diverse community despite being in a more suburban area. Like, you've got people of color living there and supporting progressive politics, which is pretty cool. 👍 It's almost like they're trying to challenge traditional Staten Island stereotypes or something.

The thing that gets me, though, is how this whole debate has taken on a national tone. Like, the Republicans are accusing Democrats of trying to steal the congressional seat... 🤯 That's some serious drama right there. And Rev. Carolina is bringing up the bigger picture about democratic norms across the country? 🙌 It's like they're saying that Staten Island's got its own unique issues, but it's also a reflection of what's happening in the rest of the country.

Anyway, I think the North Shore is definitely a fascinating case study on how identity and community work together. And one thing's for sure: this debate is going to be an interesting ride! 😂
 
I remember when New York City was all about community and character, not just skyscrapers and concrete... 🤯 Staten Islanders on both sides of the North Shore are feeling so disconnected from each other, it's like they're speaking different languages! 🇺🇸 The highway is like a big ol' divider, ain't no love lost there. And what's up with all these folks feelin' like they need more rep and Batman-like protection? 😂 I mean, can't we just get along already?! 👫 But seriously, it's sad to see the North Shore feelin' left out, even though it's got a rich history and culture of its own. 🌟 We need more understanding and unity, not politicians tryin' to one-up each other... 🙄
 
The North Shore thing is like so weird 🤔... I mean, it's Staten Island, right? It's not like they're tryin' to be a separate country or somethin'. The highway does kinda divide the area, but it's not like they can't get stuff done. And it's cool that there's this diverse community goin' on in the North Shore... like, people of color from all over the city are livin' there? That's some next level stuff 🌎

But for real though, it's kinda frustrating when you got politicians playin' games with people's representation. Like, if they're tryin' to get that congressional seat, can't they just talk to the people instead of accusin' other parties of tryin' to steal it? 🙄 And what's up with the whole Ferris wheel thing? It sounds like a total waste of resources... you'd think they'd be focusin' on somethin' more practical. Anyway, I guess Staten Islanders just gotta keep speakin' out and standin' up for themselves 💪
 
🤔 The North Shore's identity crisis on Staten Island has got me thinking about how layout and structure can shape our perception of community 🏙️ For instance, the geography of the Staten Island Expressway is creating a divide between the North Shore and South, but what if they could find a way to bridge that gap? Maybe it's time for more community events and dialogue-driven initiatives 📅 That way, people like Janos and Bao-chin can connect with others across the island and find common ground. I'd also love to see more creative, inclusive design solutions for public spaces in the North Shore - after all, a well-designed layout can make all the difference in fostering community spirit 💡
 
🤔 North Shore Staten Islanders feel like outsiders, stuck between city and suburbs. IDK why NYC couldn't make it work for them? 🚗💸

NYC's economic growth is all about gentrification – who gets left behind in the process? 🏠👀 The city needs more inclusive planning to avoid more failed projects like that Ferris wheel fiasco! 💥
 
I feel so bad for people living on Staten Island's North Shore 🤕 they're always being pushed around like their opinions don't matter 🗣️ it's like the rest of NYC is saying "we know what's best for you" 👑 but honestly, every neighborhood in this city has its own unique vibe and identity. Can't we just respect that? 🙏 I mean, I can see why they'd want more representation 👀 especially when there are some major issues like public safety and transportation 🚨💨
 
idk why ppl on staten island r so extra about who they are lol 🤷‍♀️ its like, it's just an island in nyc. but seriously tho, the north shore does feel like its own little world with all those old homes and apartment buildings. and yeah, its hard not to feel connected to the rest of the city when you've got public housing complexes and NYCHA stuff on your doorstep 🏠👍

i think the highway is def a major factor in whats going on. its like, how can u expect ppl to invest in areas that r literally blocked off by a massive road? 🚗🤦‍♀️ andRepresentation matters too tho. if ppl feel like they're not being heard, thats bound 2 cause some pretty big issues down the line 💔

anywayz, its cool that theres so much passion about this stuff. i guess u can say the north shore is just tryna find its voice 🗣️
 
omg u think the north shore on staten island is like, totally disconnected from the rest of the city? 🤔 i mean i can get that. but what if its because of how the staten island expressway was built?? 🚧 it like, splits the community in half and causes all this inequality. and its not just about politics, its about resources and funding. i feel for ppl like Bao-chin Keen who grew up in those public housing complexes with so many issues to deal with. 🏠🤕 we need more representation and investment in areas like north shore staten island. it could make a huge diff in the lives of ppl like her and her family. 💪
 
🤔 This whole thing got me thinking, you know? We're all trying to figure out where we fit in and what our place is, right? For the North Shore residents, it's about being connected to the rest of NYC, but for others on Staten Island, they might feel like their area doesn't get the recognition or investment it deserves. That's a hard truth to swallow.

It makes me think about how we all have different perspectives and experiences that shape who we are and where we belong. It's not always easy to see eye-to-eye with others, but that's what makes community building so important – listening to each other's concerns and finding common ground. 🌈
 
I had the craziest dream last night 🤯... I was flying over Manhattan with my laptop open, and every single building had a pixelated cat on it 😹. I don't know what it means, but it's totally stuck in my head now.

Anyway, back to Staten Island... have you guys ever noticed how some old-school diners still have those weird jukeboxes that play classic rock? Like, why do they still exist? 🤔 I mean, I love a good vinyl record as much as the next person, but come on!
 
So Staten Island's got this big identity crisis and people are literally fighting over what it means to be part of the island... 🤔 I feel like they're all just trying to figure out who gets to represent them and what their 'culture' is supposed to be, you know? Like, what even is a North Shore anyway? It's just an area with some old homes and apartments on city streets. Is it really that different from the rest of Staten Island or NYC? 🤷‍♀️

And then there's this whole thing about the government not investing enough in certain areas because of the highway... seems like a pretty obvious problem to me, but I guess people are still trying to work out how to fix it. 🚧 But what's up with all these politicians and community leaders saying that one group needs more representation than others? Is that even fair? Don't they all deserve an equal say in what happens on the island?

I'm also kinda confused about why this is such a big deal... like, isn't Staten Island just another part of NYC already? 🤷‍♀️ Are people really that upset about losing their 'unique identity'? It seems to me like it's just a bunch of folks trying to figure out where they fit in and who gets to decide for them. 🤔
 
🤔 the north shore thing feels like an identity crisis 🌆 it's like, yeah I'm more connected to the city than my neighbors, but does that mean we're not part of Staten Island? 🤷‍♂️

it seems like there's a lot of tension between people who are all about progressive politics and those who aren't 😐 and can we talk about how some ppl are trying to turn this into a "us vs them" thing? 🙄 it's Staten Island, folks! let's focus on getting things done for the community, not fighting over labels 💪

and what's with all the talk of representation? 🤝 isn't that just part of being a good citizen? shouldn't we be working together to make our community a better place for everyone? 🌈
 
https://nyc.gov/assemblymember-Charles-Fall-Staten-Island-North-Shore-Community-Meeting 🗣️

I dunno, but it feels like Staten Island's North Shore is just trying to find its place in the city. It's not all one way or the other, you know? I mean, on one hand, they got this whole NYCHA complex thing goin' on, which is pretty rough. On the other hand, they're also super into that progressive politics vibe, like with Mayor Zohran Mamdani and all. It's just a bit confusing when people from different sides are sayin' stuff like "we need representation" or "our voice matters too." Like, can't we just get along? 🤷‍♀️
 
I think this North Shore vs South Shore thingy is kinda weird, lol 🤔 . Like, can't they all just get along? But seriously, I feel for the people livin' in the North Shore, it's like they're stuck between two worlds. The Staten Island Expressway is a major divide, and it's no wonder they're feelin' disconnected from the rest of the city.

And can we talk about how crazy this whole thing is with the Democrats vs Republicans drama? 🤯 It's like, calm down guys, let's focus on gettin' some actual stuff done for the community. And what's up with the Ferris wheel project in St. George? That was a total waste of time and money.

I do gotta give props to Rev. Dr. Demetrius Carolina though, he's preachin' some truth 🙏 . It's all about speakin' up and bein' heard. We need more people like him, who are willin' to stand up for what's right, even if it means goin' against the status quo.

But overall, I think this whole thing is just a reflection of how crazy life can get in the big city 🌆 . You gotta navigate all these different worlds and interests, and sometimes it feels like nobody's listenin'. So yeah, Staten Islanders, let's all just try to get along and find some common ground, 'kay? 😊
 
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