Investors' 'dumb transhumanist ideas' setting back neurotech progress, say experts

Transhumanist Dreaming Hinder Neurotech Progress: Experts Bemoan Distorted Debate

The past year has been marked by significant breakthroughs in neurotechnology, with brain implants decoding speech and restoring sight to patients who had lost their vision. However, experts claim that the enthusiasm for more ambitious projects, such as uploading human brains to computers or merging with AI, is hindering progress.

The involvement of high-profile investors like Elon Musk and Sam Altman, co-founder of OpenAI, has skewed public perception of neurotechnology's potential. Marcello Ienca, a professor of neuroethics at the Technical University of Munich, argues that these narratives are distorting the debate, emphasizing long-term concerns about the ethics of such technologies.

Michael Hendricks, a professor of neurobiology at McGill, believes that rich individuals with fascination for transhumanist ideas are muddying public understanding of neurotechnology's potential. He notes that companies like Neuralink, which is developing legitimate technology development for neuroscience, are overshadowed by the hype surrounding Musk's vision for telepathy.

Mainstream Neurotech Companies Ramp Up Investment

In contrast to this speculative focus, mainstream neurotech companies like Google and Meta have dedicated significant research to developing technologies with substantial near-term potential. These advancements hold promise for treating various neurological issues, including ALS, Parkinson's disease, and paralysis.

However, investors often prioritize other goals over curing diseases, leading to a mismatch between the actual frontier of neurotechnology and its marketing or popularized applications. Experts point out that medical devices like brain implants are tightly regulated, but their development is still in its infancy compared to more speculative projects.

Consumer Wearables Raise Regulatory Concerns

The emergence of consumer wearables, such as EEG earbuds or Apple's VisionPro glasses, raises regulatory issues due to concerns about surveillance and data protection. However, the evidential robustness of these devices is limited, with few replicable studies on their effectiveness.

HervΓ© Chneiweiss, a neuroscientist, highlights that while consumer wearables may seem innocuous, they could be used to monitor brain fatigue or other factors in the workplace and potentially lead to discriminatory practices.

Science Fiction and Surveillance

The science fiction applications of neurotechnology, such as Nectome's brain-uploading startup, Kernel's link between brains and computers, or Neuralink's efforts to trademark telepathy, raise concerns about surveillance and privacy. However, experts argue that these technologies are unlikely to become widespread due to the complexity of influencing human behavior through brain implants.

Michael Hendricks suggests that existing surveillance tools, such as browser histories and purchase data, would be more effective in monitoring individuals than any potential neurotechnology. He emphasizes that people have a natural instinct to reject the idea of uploading their minds into computers, highlighting the disconnect between speculative ideas and real-world applications.

The Future of Neurotech

As neurotechnology continues to evolve, it is crucial to separate fact from fiction, emphasizing the development of legitimate technologies with significant practical potential. By shifting the focus away from speculative projects and toward the actual frontier of neurotechnology, we can unlock its full potential to improve human lives without compromising individual freedoms or ethics.
 
🀝 so i think its crazy how much hype is around this neurotech stuff right now... elon musk and all that is drawing in a lot of investors who are more into the futuristic, transhumanist vibes 🌐 but meanwhile there are actual companies working on real tech that could help people with some serious health issues πŸ’Š like google and meta, they're making some solid progress in neuroscience

anyway i think we need to separate fact from fiction here... its cool to imagine uploading our brains into computers or whatever πŸ€– but till then lets focus on the stuff thats actually gonna make a difference πŸ’‘
 
omg i was thinking about this exact thing 🀯 like dont get me wrong elon musk is a genius but come on telepathy is just a sci fi movie plot πŸ˜‚ and its so cool how google and meta are actually working on some legit stuff for ppl with alz and parkinsons tho πŸ’‘ like those guys are literally saving lives

but u know what bothers me more? those consumer wearables that track ur brain activity πŸ€– i mean wut even is the point of that lol but seriously its like isnt it just gonna be used to monitor ppl in the workplace and discriminate against them πŸ‘€ and yeah hervΓ© chneiweiss makes a super valid point about surveillance and data protection

anyway i just think we need to chill on the transhumanist vibes for a sec πŸ™ and focus on the actual tech thats making a difference πŸ’»
 
πŸ€– these "transhumanist" ppl r so extra πŸ™„ thinking we can just upload our brains to computers like it's 2025 lol. meanwhile, google & meta are over here actually making progress on degenerative diseases πŸ§ πŸ’‘ and some brain implant tech is actually being used to help ppl regain vision πŸ‘€ but noooo, everyone's too busy speculating about telepathy or "mind uploading" 🀯 it's like they're trying to distract us from the real issues. and don't even get me started on consumer wearables πŸŽ§πŸ‘“ - when are we gonna get some regulation around these things?! it's not cool that people can be monitored at work just because of a fancy EEG πŸ‘€πŸ’Έ
 
πŸ€” I think some of these transhumanist ideas are getting a bit out of hand πŸš€. I mean, sure, it's cool to imagine a future where humans and AI are merge-d, but we gotta keep things grounded in reality πŸ’‘. We've got some amazing breakthroughs happening in neurotech right now, like those brain implants that can restore sight or help people with ALS 🌟. But then you get these super ambitious ideas floating around, like uploading brains to computers, and it's just like... what? 🀯

I don't think we should be letting the hype surrounding Elon Musk's stuff cloud our judgment πŸ’Έ. We need more research into actual, practical applications of neurotech, not just wild speculation about the future 🌌. And let's not forget that medical devices are tightly regulated for a reason – they're still pretty new technology πŸ”¬.

I do think it's cool to see companies like Google and Meta investing in real-world solutions πŸ’», but we need to make sure we're prioritizing those over some of these fancier, more speculative projects πŸ€”. And what about consumer wearables? They might seem harmless, but they raise some serious concerns about surveillance and data protection πŸ”’.

Anyway, I think the key is just to separate fact from fiction πŸ“š and focus on developing real-world technologies that can actually make a difference πŸ’‘. No need for all this sci-fi hype 🚫.
 
Wow 🀯 People's obsession with crazy transhumanist ideas is really holding back progress in neurotech ! Companies are stuck trying to make those wild promises work while mainstream neurotech companies are just focusing on making real life-changing tech like brain implants that can restore sight and hearing . And consumer wearables ? More surveillance concerns , in my opinion 😳
 
πŸ€– i think ppl r gettin too caught up in the hype of neurotech & transhumanism rn πŸš€ like, yeah it sounds cool 2 have a brain-computer interface or upload ur mind 2 a computer, but r we really ready 4 that? πŸ˜‚ meanwhile, there r actual ppl workin on developin tech 2 help ppl w/ diseases like ALS & Parkinson's 🀝 lets not 4get about the legit stuff first πŸ’‘
 
I remember when we were just starting to get into those new brain-computer interfaces πŸ€–. Now it's like everyone's talking about uploading their brains to computers or merging with AI πŸ’». It's just too much hype, you know? I mean, what's the point of having a fancy implant if it's not gonna help people? We should be focusing on curing actual diseases and helping those in need, not chasing some sci-fi fantasy πŸ€”.

And don't even get me started on these new consumer wearables πŸ“Š. I'm all for innovation, but what's the practical use of an EEG earbud? πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ Can they really help us monitor brain fatigue or whatever it is they're supposed to do? I think we need to slow down and focus on making real progress in neurotech before we get caught up in all this speculative nonsense πŸ”₯.
 
πŸ˜• I feel like people get really caught up in all the sci-fi stuff being talked about in the neurotech world. It's cool that we're making progress with brain implants and whatnot, but can we please focus on the real stuff for a second? 🀯 Like, there are some sick advancements happening with treating diseases like ALS and Parkinson's. We need to be supporting companies that are doing legit research instead of just following Elon Musk around πŸš€

And what's up with all these wearables? I know they seem cool, but we gotta think about the bigger picture here. Surveillance is a major concern, and I'm not sure I want my brain being monitored by some company just because it can πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ.

We need to have more serious conversations about what's actually happening in neurotech, rather than getting caught up in all the hype and speculation πŸ’¬
 
I mean, have you seen all these brain-uploading techs lately? 🀯 Like, what's next? We're gonna upload our minds into computers and just live in a virtual world, right? πŸ˜‚ I'm not saying it can't be interesting to explore those possibilities, but sometimes I think we need to take a step back and focus on the actual problems that neurotech is trying to solve. Like, let's get some brain implants for people with ALS or Parkinson's disease before we start talking about uploading our brains to space πŸš€. And what's up with all these consumer wearables? I mean, yeah, they can be cool and all, but do we really need to track our brain activity in real-time just to make sure we're not getting too tired at work? πŸ™„ Give me a break! Let's keep it real, guys! πŸ’―
 
I mean, I get why some people are super excited about brain implants and all that, but I'm like, hold up, let's not get too ahead of ourselves πŸ€”. The idea of uploading our brains into computers sounds straight outta science fiction, right? πŸš€ Like, how is it even possible to replicate human consciousness in a machine? It just doesn't add up.

And don't even get me started on the regulatory issues surrounding these new gadgets. Consumer wearables are supposed to be helping us track our health and wellness, but if they're just gonna monitor our brain activity without our consent, that's some serious creepiness 🀫.

I'm all for advancing neurotech, especially when it comes to curing diseases and whatnot. But we need to keep things grounded in reality, you know? Let's focus on making these technologies work in the real world, not just in some futuristic fantasy land πŸ’».
 
it's crazy how much hype surrounds these neurotech advancements 🀯 like, people are getting super excited about brain implants decoding speech and restoring sight but then they start talking about uploading human brains to computers or merging with AI and it just gets lost in the noise πŸ”Š what's really important is that we have actual technologies being developed for treating diseases and improving lives on a daily basis 🌟 companies like Google and Meta are doing some amazing work πŸ’» meanwhile, these rich folks with transhumanist fantasies are creating this skewed narrative that's hard to untangle πŸ•³οΈ i mean, can't we just focus on making life better for everyone without having to worry about the ethics of sci-fi stuff first? πŸ€”
 
Ugh 🀯 I'm so done with these transhumanist folks always throwing a wrench into progress 🚧 You know what's actually happening? We're making strides in developing life-changing tech like brain implants that can restore sight and speech to people who need it most πŸ’‘ Companies like Google and Meta are pushing the boundaries of neurotech for real-world benefits, not just some sci-fi fantasy πŸ€– Mainstream scientists are working tirelessly to treat diseases like ALS and Parkinson's, not chasing after some pipe dream about uploading our minds into computers 🚫 It's time to separate fact from fiction and focus on developing practical tech that can make a tangible difference in people's lives πŸ’ͺ
 
I'm kinda worried that people are getting too caught up in those sci-fi ideas πŸ€–πŸ’­. I mean, think about it, uploading brains into computers? It's like something straight outta a movie πŸ˜‚. I know some of the tech is legit and could make a real difference for people with disabilities, but we gotta keep things grounded. We need to focus on making those medical devices more accessible and affordable so everyone can benefit from them πŸ’Έ. And can we talk about how crazy it is that some companies are already trademarking stuff like telepathy 🀣? It's like they're trying to create a whole new reality show πŸ“Ί. Seriously though, let's just take things one step at a time and make sure we're not sacrificing our values for the sake of innovation πŸ’‘.
 
I'm not sure I understand why some people think we need to "upload our minds" into computers πŸ€”. It sounds like something straight out of a sci-fi movie! I get that it's an interesting idea, but what's the point if we can't even figure out how to make existing brain implants more effective? πŸ’‘

I'm worried about the regulation around consumer wearables too πŸ“Š. If companies are going to use them to monitor people's brains in the workplace, that could be super invasive and unfair. I mean, do we really need apps that track our mental fatigue or focus levels? 🀯 It just seems like a bunch of unnecessary tech to me.

I'm glad there are some scientists out there saying that these more advanced ideas aren't as promising as they seem 😐. We should be focusing on the stuff that actually makes a difference in people's lives, like curing diseases and helping with paralysis. That's what I want to see more investment in! πŸ’Έ
 
i think elon musk's involvement in neurotech is giving ppl the wrong idea about what's actually possible πŸ€”. all these mind-uploading & brain-computer merging vids are just that - vids, not reality πŸ˜‚. and it's kinda cool how google & meta are working on actual therapies for diseases like als & parkinson's. they're making real progress πŸ’‘

i'm also worried about the consumer wearables market πŸ€–. do we really need a brain scanner in our earbuds? what's next, a neural implant that monitors our every move? 🚫 i think people need to chill on the whole surveillance thing and focus on the good stuff – like curing diseases and improving lives πŸ’Š
 
πŸ€” I'm not sure if it's just me, but isn't it weird how some people get super hyped about uploading human brains into computers? πŸ™ƒ Like, what's the timeline on that? And who exactly is gonna make that happen and why should we trust them with our consciousness? πŸ€– It seems like most of these transhumanist ideas are just sci-fi stuff that's meant to sell books or get people talking about it.

I mean, sure, having brain implants that can decode speech and restore vision is pretty cool, but let's not forget that there are already legit medical devices being developed by companies like Google and Meta that could actually make a difference in people's lives. πŸ’»

And what's with the whole surveillance aspect? πŸ•΅οΈβ€β™€οΈ I'm all for protecting individual freedoms, but come on, we're not gonna start monitoring brain activity in the workplace or something, are we? πŸ˜‚ That sounds like some serious dystopian movie stuff right there.

I'd love to see some credible sources backing up these claims about the impact of high-profile investors and their influence on public perception. πŸ“š Can't just take someone's word for it, you know?
 
πŸ€–πŸ’» A brain implant is like a smartphone for your brain... but it's still 2 years behind! πŸ˜‚

πŸ“ŠπŸ’Έ Why do people think Elon Musk is going to upload their minds into computers when they can't even get Netflix to work? 🀣

πŸš«πŸ’” Brain implants are not meant to control people, but I'm starting to see ads for "neuro-therapy" that make me question... πŸ€‘
 
it's wild how some ppl get carried away with the whole transhumanist thing 🀯, it's like they're thinking about what sci-fi movies are gonna be 20 yrs from now instead of focusing on making progress that can actually help people πŸ™…β€β™‚οΈ. i mean, yeah, brain implants and all that jazz is cool and all, but let's not forget there are ppl out there struggling with real-life diseases like ALS and Parkinson's πŸ€•. we should be trying to develop tech that can actually cure those things instead of messing around with some far-out stuff 😐
 
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